Could be Bohemia Crystal in the Etoile pattern. Another identification to consider (March 23, 2015)
Original Post – April 7, 2014
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I have posted this pattern a few times. At one time I wondered if this could be a pattern that I have seen called Cleo, and also called Massenet, through online sources. The company to which it was attributed is Saint-Louis Crystal.
I have few resources about European glass/crystal manufacturers, so I poked around the ‘net a bit. This is what Saint-Louis’ site says:
“By letters patent dated 1767, Louis XV gave Münzthal the prestigious name of Verrerie Royale de Saint-Louis (Saint-Louis Royal Glassworks). Fifteen years later, the formula for producing crystal was discovered by François de Beaufort. The Verrerie Royale de Saint-Louis was renamed the Cristallerie Royale de Saint-Louis.”
The decoration on this decanter is fine, but I don’t think the glass nor the decoration are particularly high quality. So…the mystery continues. I still think this pattern is Bohemian Queen’s Lace…..or close enough!
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Original March 3, 2013 posting.
I have posted this etch before as I have the pattern in a number of pieces. These two are recently acquired.
However, over on the Elegant and Everyday Glass Forum there was an interesting discussion about the various companies, American and European, that made very similar etches.
As you can see, from the label, these are definitely European. I will have to look at my pieces again as they are on different blanks/shapes.
The Great Glass website identifies the label as coming from:
GlassExport, Prague, Czechoslovakia (19502-1970s), (known to have exported glassware from Železný Brod).
Always something to learn!
reg miller said:
When my parents were in Europe in the late 70’s or early 80’s they purchased for me a let of these glasses when they were in what was then Czechoslovakia. Does anyone know the value and if there is a market for these. I think I have 9-
10 stems. From the pics i saw online it looks like the water glass of Etoile.
d.b. said:
Hi
I have no idea which company made the stems. I always think of the “Bohemia Crystal” name referring more to glassware coming from Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic, not necessarily a company name. Could be wrong however.
I had one of the water goblets and sold it awhile ago for $10 USD. However I had advertised it incorrectly with the Queen’s Lace pattern name. It may have sold for more if I had correctly named it.
If I recall correctly the water goblets are quite large. Nice gift from your folks.
Thanks for your comment.
cheers. d.b.
Henri said:
It is ETOILE.
We have the complete set
d.b. said:
Thank you for the verification. I bet your set looks beautiful on the table. cheers. d.b.
d said:
I would have sworn that crystal you posted-the one wine andthe 1 champagne flute posted March 3 that the pattern is Etiole by Bohemia Crystal
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/BOCETO.htm
it is (was) my sister’s pattern until she couldn’t replace any of it anymore.
Hers was purchased in 1992.
replacements unlimited has it listed, but no pieces available.
I’ve had it on my notify list with them for about 6 years now.
Would love to know where you are finding pieces?
She picked it for her good crystal after I got Bohemia’s Thistle for myself.
d said:
hi again
the queen’s lace in bohemia is not a fluted glass & it has a cut knob in the stem.
http://search.replacements.com/texis/search/main.html?query=queen%27s+lace+crystal+infield%3Aenc%3AManufacturerName%3DBOHEMIA%2BCRYST%2B%2528%252AIMA%2529&pr=Meta_20150316&prox=page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=0&rwfreq=0&rlead=1000&rdepth=0&sufs=3&order=ClientCount-d%2CPieceOrder-a&mode=&opts=&sr=-1
d.b. said:
Thanks again. I am going to change the ID on the listing. cheers. d.b.
d.b. said:
Hi – I have no idea where I got any of these pieces. They are items that I have had for some time. I love the fact that you have pointed out the correction in this listing. This was one of the reasons that I started this blog ages ago – was to get people who knew better than I to identify the unknowns, or to correct me – thank you.
I no longer pick up this pattern, so I can’t honestly say if I have come across any in awhile. But I am going to keep my eyes open for them. thnx. d.b.
Sue said:
I have a Queen’s Lace Place I am trying to find information on – not sure if you can help or not but I have to start somewhere
Someone has said it is a ‘demo’ piece which shows how the pattern is cut.
I would like to know if it has any worth primarily but also would like to know it’s approximate age.
I don’t see an option to add a picture – but I am happy to email on to you.
d.b. said:
I had a quick look at Replacements.com listing for Bohemia Queen’s Lace items. They don’t list a plate. I’ve never seen a plate. I’ve never heard that plates were necessarily demo pieces. There are online sites, and books, with Czech glass references. Sorry I can’t be more helpful. Good luck!