I had four or six of these and they were among the first pieces that I bought way back when. I sold them awhile ago. You just run out of room. And…you come across pieces that you prefer. Funny though….the pieces I seem to prefer just keep going up in cost!!!!! Luckily I came across the photos recently. These were small – cocktails or sherry I imagine, if I remember correctly. I’ve seen this pattern with the name “Jabot”, but I have seen it frequently referred to as DE (deep etch) 107. I think this line was produced in the first decade of the twentieth century, but I wouldn’t bet a quarter on it.
Glass companies changed owners and were bought out over time. Fry had a relationship (too long to write about here) with Beaver Valley Glass. Beaver Valley produced the most beautiful Geisha pattern. I haven’t seen it often. I was outbid on a mug at $55.00 or so. Too rich for my blood. But I’d love to own a piece. I’ve only seen this pattern on the mug. It would be gorgeous on stems.
I bid on a pitcher with DE 107 but the seller cancelled the sale because there were noticeable scratches and I didn’t take it. I have to admit to being a wee bit sorry that I sold these as I like having the older pieces, but they were too small unless you use the teensy glasses, and I don’t.
What a conundrum. It’s been much more difficult then I thought to have these items identified. Nonetheless I think they’re gorgeous. I have mine listed on a local site here to see if there are any takers, but if not I will just keep them. I will have a look at the sites you mentioned. The Heisey Royal Ivy thought came from a listing on Virtualattic.com if you’d like to take a look.
Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
With all due respect to the owners of the Virtualattic site, I cannot find any mention online, or in either of my Heisey reference books, to an etch called Royal Ivy. Heisey had a Plantation Ivy etch, but it looks nothing like this.
The etch on the site was difficult to see, but the shape of the stem looked like Fry. Check out the low sherbert here – http://www.replacements.com/webquote/FRYDE107.htm#808381.
Good luck and thanks for looking at the blog! cheers. d.b.
I found the same. Thanks so much for the help. And happy hunting 🙂
You’re welcome and ditto! cheers. d.b.
Does anyone know or have an idea the worth of this set? I have an entire set of glasses, sherberts and the short juice or aperitif glasses you mentioned. I’ve had a hard time finding anything about them and have also been told this is a Heisey Royal Ivy 9085 etch. Just curious. Thanks
I have no recollection of what I sold this set for – it’s been a couple of years. I’ve never heard of the Royal Ivy etch.
But your query is justified. I posted a question on the Elegant and Everyday Glass Forum (great site) awhile back. I’m including it so you can see my confusion…….this is the comment verbatim…
“I’m hoping that I can get some clarification please. Last evening I was leafing through my small collection of reference sources. On p 180 of Tim Schmidt’s Central Glass Works he shows a look-a-like pattern by Tiffin that (says he) “resembles many Central Glass patterns including an almost exact match for the David pattern.” I couldn’t find the David etch in the gallery, or online either.
I leafed through Page and Frederiksen’s Tiffin is Forever, looking for their pattern. On page 46 I came across a similar etch that they call Coronada. There may be others, I didn’t look further. I didn’t see it in the gallery, or online either.
What interested me the most was that these etches also like very close to Fry’s DE 107 (says I).
I pulled the pieces that I have with these look alike etches. I have great difficulty recognizing the blanks when they are the smaller stems. Looking from left to right in the group photo I am assuming/wondering that the middle stem is from Fry’s 5119 line. Looking at the furthest piece on the right, I’m wondering if the shape matches the sherbert on page 79 of The Collector’s Encyclopedia of Fry Glassware. I can’t quite tell if the stem is the same. Although you can’t tell from the photos, these etches on these two pieces are most alike (taking into consideration the different shapes). The detail of the other piece’s etch (on the far left) under my magnifying glass, are slightly different, not as finely done. I do not know the origin of this blank.
No one responded to my question.
If you want to see the photos, check out their forums and run a search on.
You’ll have to learn more about the shape/blank of your stems and see if they are easily identifiable as having come from one of these companies. The blanks of my former stems were in the 5119 pattern line.
If you are sure they are from Fry, run a search on Fry DE107 at Replacements.com. You can see their retail prices for this pattern.
Good luck. cheers. d.b.