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A smaller version. I am going with the Etoile ID.
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2015
Finally after three years someone out in cyberspace has corrected an ID for me. Love it. That’s why I started this blog in the first place. The gold rim glass is confirmed by someone whose sister collects this pattern, as Bohemia Etoile.
Over the years I have had a number of pieces with the gold rim and the etch and knew that I had never confirmed the blank. It is great to have this corrected and identified.
I don’t know if the small glasses below are part of this pattern however. There is no gold rim and Replacements doesn’t include this shape in its listing of Etoile.
Also, I think these pieces are older. The glass is much thinner and if I recall, as I haven’t seen them for awhile, I think the etch is finer.
Lotus/Glastonbury has a very similar etch called Garland #1001 and the St. Louis Cleo etch is also very similar. All about the shape/blank in the end, isn’t it?
Intriguing. Thanks to the person who had identified the Etoile pattern however.
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Original post – May 31, 2012.
I have to update this prior posting with a new photo. You’ll notice that the etch is the same, but larger, not as detailed, and the rim is gold. The Queen’s Lace has the gold encrusted pattern, so I still don’t know what this is. I have these two snifters, and a couple other pieces, yet to be shown.
This etch is a bit of a mystery. I bought 8 of these little glasses in town here. The seller, Marie from Under the Toadstool, said that they had belonged to her mom, but she didn’t know anything about them. They are very small ( 3 1/2 in with a 2 1/8 inch opening) and don’t have the shape that I’d associate with a liqueur or cordial glass. I think of those glasses being more cylindrical, these have a slight flare, if that’s the correct word. I have this etch on two water goblets and a decanter. I have seen it identified as Bohemia Crystal’s Queen’s Lace etch and as St. (Saint) Louis Massenet. However the Bohemia pattern is always shown with a particular stem and the St. Louis pattern has the etch encrusted with gold. My other pieces have a stem I’ve not seen with this pattern, and gold along the rim, but not in the etch. No markings on anything. The glass is very thin. They look old.
I have a question into a European company to see if they can shed any light on this etch. As usual….if anyone can shed any light on this mystery………
J. Williams said:
“This etch is a bit of a mystery.” With a smooth stem & without gold trim, it appears to be Lotus Glass Company etch #1001 “Garland”; on pieces with black or green glass, it’s sometimes called McGuire.
Statements in various sources say that Lotus did *not* produce its own glass, but bought blanks from companies such as: Fostoria, Heisey, Cambridge, Duncan & Miller, Paden City Glass, and Bryce Brothers. That resulted in quite a variety of stem designs.
While Lotus “Garland” was posted 8/30/2018 on the Glass Lovers Glass Database, showing optic glass, it was also appeared on clear glass.
On the Replacements.com website, the etch appears on: Glastonbury-Lotus “Garland (stem #25)”; Seneca “Scroll (Etch 600)”–on stem 8000″; unknown manufacturers’ “UNK582 Clear (non-optic)”, “UNK582” [optic]; & UNK2982.
d.b. said:
Thanks for the information. I’ve never seen the reference to ‘McGuire’ before. You are right the etch IS a mystery. cheers. d.b.
Nancy said:
I’ve been trying to identify some glasses I purchased recently. They have a similar etched pattern with a golf ball style stem and gold rim. A stemware indentification book that I have listed a silver rimmed version with that stem as Imperial Silver Lace. I can’t find any information on that pattern. I assume I might have Gold Lace. I would love to know if anyone has any information on it.
Thanks!
d.b. said:
Hi
Thanks for your comment. Checkout Bohemia Queen’s Lace on Replacements.com. Sounds like this could be the pattern, given the description of the ‘golf ball’. If not,can you send a photo? Seeing the actual shape will be helpful. Cheers d.b.
Lisa said:
Hi! After much searching myself, I’ve come up with a bit of info on this pattern, as I have some too. I believe it is by the Seneca Glass Company (which were the original makers of Hockings’ Cameo before it was sold to Hocking) and the etch is #600.
Hope that helps!
Lisa @ Old Time Glass
d.b. said:
Hi
Interesting. I had a look at the etch on Replacements.com. I also looked up Bohemia Queen’s Lace. looks like the same etch. I have a piece that has the Bohemia Crystal label. None of the blanks that I have – brandies, decanter, water goblets, claret, are the same blank as the Seneca piece that is shown. None of my pieces have an optic. I wonder if Seneca did the decoration on blanks from different companies. I know absolutely nothing about Seneca.
Thanks for sharing and please pass along any other observations.
Nice shop, and great name!
cheers
d.b.